Comments on: GoG Nomination: William Roger Clemens http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/gog-nomination-william-roger-clemens/ People don't think it be like it is, but it do. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:08:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.7 by: Cliffy http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/gog-nomination-william-roger-clemens/#comment-956 Thu, 24 Jan 2008 11:44:59 +0000 http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/gog-nomination-william-roger-clemens/#comment-956 He's used to getting stuck with small sharp objects... so I suspect he'll be fine. Incidentally, when I first read your reply, I read it quickly as "it's been weak"... which it has been. Are Tank, Gonzo, and I the only actual nominators/voters for the GoG? Is that how it's gonna be? He’s used to getting stuck with small sharp objects… so I suspect he’ll be fine.

Incidentally, when I first read your reply, I read it quickly as “it’s been weak”… which it has been. Are Tank, Gonzo, and I the only actual nominators/voters for the GoG? Is that how it’s gonna be?

]]> by: Tank http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/gog-nomination-william-roger-clemens/#comment-952 Wed, 23 Jan 2008 22:48:37 +0000 http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/gog-nomination-william-roger-clemens/#comment-952 OK, it's been a week - last call for objections to Rocket's induction? I wonder how he'll do on the nails. OK, it’s been a week - last call for objections to Rocket’s induction?

I wonder how he’ll do on the nails.

]]> by: Gonzo http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/gog-nomination-william-roger-clemens/#comment-932 Sun, 20 Jan 2008 03:54:19 +0000 http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/gog-nomination-william-roger-clemens/#comment-932 Agree he's in the HOF (and GoG) regardless, but I believe he's only risen to such a high stature due to PED. Just like Bonds - another HOFer before the drugs, but no way he becomes HR king without 'em... Agree he’s in the HOF (and GoG) regardless, but I believe he’s only risen to such a high stature due to PED.

Just like Bonds - another HOFer before the drugs, but no way he becomes HR king without ‘em…

]]> by: Cliffy http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/gog-nomination-william-roger-clemens/#comment-903 Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:25:53 +0000 http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/gog-nomination-william-roger-clemens/#comment-903 We can debate where he ranks all-time - personally, I've got him #2 behind Walter Johnson. But I see no debate for his candidacy for the GoG (nor for Cooperstown, fwiw). And in anticipation of the "but he cheated with steroids" concern... spare me. It may have added a few more wins, some strikeouts, and *possibly* lowered his career ERA by a minute margin - but there are two main reasons this shouldn't be an issue: (1) Yes - he was a GoG'er even if you disregard the time in question, and (2) More players than not were on the juice, so if anything, he had a level playing field. I defy anyone to provide a legitimate argument against Clemens going into the GoG (or HoF for that matter). He may well be a Class A Jerk, and I happen to think he's currently lying (in part cuz he's lied before) - but based on the merits, i.e. what he did on the field... there can be no dispute. We can debate where he ranks all-time - personally, I’ve got him #2 behind Walter Johnson. But I see no debate for his candidacy for the GoG (nor for Cooperstown, fwiw).

And in anticipation of the “but he cheated with steroids” concern… spare me. It may have added a few more wins, some strikeouts, and *possibly* lowered his career ERA by a minute margin - but there are two main reasons this shouldn’t be an issue: (1) Yes - he was a GoG’er even if you disregard the time in question, and (2) More players than not were on the juice, so if anything, he had a level playing field.

I defy anyone to provide a legitimate argument against Clemens going into the GoG (or HoF for that matter). He may well be a Class A Jerk, and I happen to think he’s currently lying (in part cuz he’s lied before) - but based on the merits, i.e. what he did on the field… there can be no dispute.

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