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	<title>Comments on: Pedroia - MVP and/or 20/20 guy?</title>
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		<title>by: Cliffy</title>
		<link>http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/pedroia-mvp-andor-2020-guy/#comment-1400</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Oh... and on NL MVP, can we all agree that Pujols will win it going away?

One last thought on NL CYA:  I mentioned previously, but I'll be very interested to see where Sabathia finishes in the vote.  Recall that Rick Sutcliffe got traded in-season to the Cubs and pitched so great that he ended up getting the NL CYA that year (1984? without checking).

One last thought on AL CYA:  Based purely on offense, Milton Bradley is doing better than ARod... but Bradley's a DH and... well, he has the rep as a headcase.  In addition, he plays for a horrible team - which won't help him when he's got other marks against him.  But Bradley should finish no worse than top-5, and could easily be top-3.

If I had a vote, I'd go Quentin, ARod, Pedroia, Bradley, Hamilton on my AL MVP ticket.  And I might put Sabathia second behind Linecum on my NL CYA ballot.  I'd probably put Dice-K second, ahead of K-Rod... cuz I'm not that impressed by inflated save numbers... unless they're accompanied by gaudy ERA and WHIP numbers (which K-Rod's aren't).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh&#8230; and on NL MVP, can we all agree that Pujols will win it going away?</p>
<p>One last thought on NL CYA:  I mentioned previously, but I&#8217;ll be very interested to see where Sabathia finishes in the vote.  Recall that Rick Sutcliffe got traded in-season to the Cubs and pitched so great that he ended up getting the NL CYA that year (1984? without checking).</p>
<p>One last thought on AL CYA:  Based purely on offense, Milton Bradley is doing better than ARod&#8230; but Bradley&#8217;s a DH and&#8230; well, he has the rep as a headcase.  In addition, he plays for a horrible team - which won&#8217;t help him when he&#8217;s got other marks against him.  But Bradley should finish no worse than top-5, and could easily be top-3.</p>
<p>If I had a vote, I&#8217;d go Quentin, ARod, Pedroia, Bradley, Hamilton on my AL MVP ticket.  And I might put Sabathia second behind Linecum on my NL CYA ballot.  I&#8217;d probably put Dice-K second, ahead of K-Rod&#8230; cuz I&#8217;m not that impressed by inflated save numbers&#8230; unless they&#8217;re accompanied by gaudy ERA and WHIP numbers (which K-Rod&#8217;s aren&#8217;t).
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		<title>by: Cliffy</title>
		<link>http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/pedroia-mvp-andor-2020-guy/#comment-1399</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Cliff Lee is 20-2 and leading the league (by 0.22 runs) in ERA at 2.32.  Yes - Lee's team sucks... but there is *no* way K-Rod gets the CYA.  If there was no obvious starter?  Fine... his gaudy save totals would probably get him the hardware.  But Cliff Lee is 20... and... *2* - with an excellent ERA.  I'll be stunned if he's not the unanimous winner.  And though I don't think he'd necessarily deserve it, I won't be surprised if Dice-K finishes 2nd ahead of K-Rod - as Dice-K stands at 16-2, 2.88 ERA (#4 in AL)... and voters will be ignorant to his frustratingly high walk totals.  K-Rod has the 54 saves... very nice - but his 2.43 ERA is *higher* than Cliff Lee's.  The starter has a better ERA than the closer... no way K-Rod gets anywhere close to the CYA this season (unless Cliff Lee goes John Wasdin in his remaining starts... and even then, he'd have to go "bad" John Wasdin... which seems redundant, but my point is he'd have to be John Wasdin on John Wasdin's worst day - over the next month - to lose the CYA at this point).

As for NL Cy Young, I'm with Gonzo... Linecum is more deserving than (likely winner) Webb.  Webb is currently 19-6, 3.19 ERA, 160 K.  Linecum is 15-3 (i.e. better winning %), 2.60 ERA and 216 K.  Interesting that ERA#2 Jake Peavy (2.69) only has 9 wins and ERA#3 (Santana) only has 12 wins.  Webb is all I hear about, but Linecum seems to be most deserving... and I'm not sure it's even close.

As for AL MVP, if Chicago wins the Central (and I think they will), then I think Carlos Quentin wins it and Josh Hamilton finishes second (too many people love his story).  I think Pedroia gets enough votes to be top-5, and might somehow sneak into top-3 if there's an undercurrent of support that develops in the next four weeks (especially if he continues his recent torrid pace).

On pure numbers, ARod is probably deserving of the AL MVP - but he won't get any first-place votes.  I wouldn't mind seeing Pedroia get it - but I'm not sure he's deserving and ultimately I'm not sure he'll get any first-place votes (outside of maybe Boston).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cliff Lee is 20-2 and leading the league (by 0.22 runs) in ERA at 2.32.  Yes - Lee&#8217;s team sucks&#8230; but there is *no* way K-Rod gets the CYA.  If there was no obvious starter?  Fine&#8230; his gaudy save totals would probably get him the hardware.  But Cliff Lee is 20&#8230; and&#8230; *2* - with an excellent ERA.  I&#8217;ll be stunned if he&#8217;s not the unanimous winner.  And though I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;d necessarily deserve it, I won&#8217;t be surprised if Dice-K finishes 2nd ahead of K-Rod - as Dice-K stands at 16-2, 2.88 ERA (#4 in AL)&#8230; and voters will be ignorant to his frustratingly high walk totals.  K-Rod has the 54 saves&#8230; very nice - but his 2.43 ERA is *higher* than Cliff Lee&#8217;s.  The starter has a better ERA than the closer&#8230; no way K-Rod gets anywhere close to the CYA this season (unless Cliff Lee goes John Wasdin in his remaining starts&#8230; and even then, he&#8217;d have to go &#8220;bad&#8221; John Wasdin&#8230; which seems redundant, but my point is he&#8217;d have to be John Wasdin on John Wasdin&#8217;s worst day - over the next month - to lose the CYA at this point).</p>
<p>As for NL Cy Young, I&#8217;m with Gonzo&#8230; Linecum is more deserving than (likely winner) Webb.  Webb is currently 19-6, 3.19 ERA, 160 K.  Linecum is 15-3 (i.e. better winning %), 2.60 ERA and 216 K.  Interesting that ERA#2 Jake Peavy (2.69) only has 9 wins and ERA#3 (Santana) only has 12 wins.  Webb is all I hear about, but Linecum seems to be most deserving&#8230; and I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s even close.</p>
<p>As for AL MVP, if Chicago wins the Central (and I think they will), then I think Carlos Quentin wins it and Josh Hamilton finishes second (too many people love his story).  I think Pedroia gets enough votes to be top-5, and might somehow sneak into top-3 if there&#8217;s an undercurrent of support that develops in the next four weeks (especially if he continues his recent torrid pace).</p>
<p>On pure numbers, ARod is probably deserving of the AL MVP - but he won&#8217;t get any first-place votes.  I wouldn&#8217;t mind seeing Pedroia get it - but I&#8217;m not sure he&#8217;s deserving and ultimately I&#8217;m not sure he&#8217;ll get any first-place votes (outside of maybe Boston).
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		<title>by: Gonzo</title>
		<link>http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/pedroia-mvp-andor-2020-guy/#comment-1397</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>NL Cy Young should be interesting.  Webb will probably get it, especially if they win West, but how about the season Lincecum is having? He leads NL in K's and ERA by a healthy margin, and should have at least two more wins if not for the 'pen...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NL Cy Young should be interesting.  Webb will probably get it, especially if they win West, but how about the season Lincecum is having? He leads NL in K&#8217;s and ERA by a healthy margin, and should have at least two more wins if not for the &#8216;pen&#8230;
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		<title>by: shtiny</title>
		<link>http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/pedroia-mvp-andor-2020-guy/#comment-1395</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>AL voting is going to be interesting this year.  the top pitcher plays for an awful team in Cleveland....and there are no Yankees or Red sox worth consideration for either award...and that includes Youk and Pedroia.   don't be surprised if KROD wins the Cy Young</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AL voting is going to be interesting this year.  the top pitcher plays for an awful team in Cleveland&#8230;.and there are no Yankees or Red sox worth consideration for either award&#8230;and that includes Youk and Pedroia.   don&#8217;t be surprised if KROD wins the Cy Young
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