Comments on: Shocking Story http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/shocking-story/ People don't think it be like it is, but it do. Sun, 20 May 2012 08:38:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.7 by: Cliffy http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/shocking-story/#comment-2010 Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:26:33 +0000 http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/shocking-story/#comment-2010 Puh-leeze... the schools get *no* benefit from this - even after factoring in the penalty? The coach (and staff) are responsible for the actions of their student-athletes, but the school has *zero* responsibility for the actions of its student-athletes? Spare me. The school (in this case USC, though they're far from alone in the NCAA landscape) is only too happy to cash all the checks that come in thanks to some "renegade coach", and then feign surprise and disgust when the "renegade coach" went outside the rules to... well, get those big checks into the school's coffers. The *schools* are the biggest beneficiaries of the NCAA"s dysfunctional economic model... or else they wouldn't employ those coaches and enroll those student-athletes. Why does John Calipari keep getting hired? Cuz schools do the cost/benefit analysis and determine the immediate gains more than outweight the eventual (and inevitable) scandals and penalties. Before we insist the coach needs to give back money, let's start with the schools returning monies. When *that* happens, *then* we can talk about coaches. As an analogy, if I choose to pay Milton Bradley to play baseball for my team, I cannot then be surprised or upset when he has a meltdown that (a) embarasses the team/organization, (b) costs him playing time (in the form of suspension and/or personal time taken), and/or (c) costs the team games. If USC was so concerned with whether or not Pete Carroll was fully complying with the rules, then they should've done a better job of ensuring compliance along the way. On a related note, when Lane Kiffin inevitably jumps ship to the next school with the bigger contract and/or better situation, USC can spare me the mock horror that he would have the audacity to leave (just ask Tennessee). As for the players currently on the team, Danny's absolutely right. They truly had *no* clue that the NCAA was going to hand down some punishment in the near future? Well, then... good lesson in "open your damn eyes and pay attention"... and after all, college is *supposed* to be about lessons above everything else, isn't it? Yeah, yeah... I realize that sounds adorable and naive, but I'm also sick of hearing about "poor, disadvantaged student-athletes". We should all have it "so bad". Did I leave anyone out? I don't think so. So, okay... I'm done now. Puh-leeze… the schools get *no* benefit from this - even after factoring in the penalty? The coach (and staff) are responsible for the actions of their student-athletes, but the school has *zero* responsibility for the actions of its student-athletes? Spare me. The school (in this case USC, though they’re far from alone in the NCAA landscape) is only too happy to cash all the checks that come in thanks to some “renegade coach”, and then feign surprise and disgust when the “renegade coach” went outside the rules to… well, get those big checks into the school’s coffers. The *schools* are the biggest beneficiaries of the NCAA”s dysfunctional economic model… or else they wouldn’t employ those coaches and enroll those student-athletes.

Why does John Calipari keep getting hired? Cuz schools do the cost/benefit analysis and determine the immediate gains more than outweight the eventual (and inevitable) scandals and penalties.

Before we insist the coach needs to give back money, let’s start with the schools returning monies. When *that* happens, *then* we can talk about coaches.

As an analogy, if I choose to pay Milton Bradley to play baseball for my team, I cannot then be surprised or upset when he has a meltdown that (a) embarasses the team/organization, (b) costs him playing time (in the form of suspension and/or personal time taken), and/or (c) costs the team games.

If USC was so concerned with whether or not Pete Carroll was fully complying with the rules, then they should’ve done a better job of ensuring compliance along the way.

On a related note, when Lane Kiffin inevitably jumps ship to the next school with the bigger contract and/or better situation, USC can spare me the mock horror that he would have the audacity to leave (just ask Tennessee).

As for the players currently on the team, Danny’s absolutely right. They truly had *no* clue that the NCAA was going to hand down some punishment in the near future? Well, then… good lesson in “open your damn eyes and pay attention”… and after all, college is *supposed* to be about lessons above everything else, isn’t it? Yeah, yeah… I realize that sounds adorable and naive, but I’m also sick of hearing about “poor, disadvantaged student-athletes”. We should all have it “so bad”.

Did I leave anyone out? I don’t think so. So, okay… I’m done now.

]]> by: Tank http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/shocking-story/#comment-2008 Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:53:10 +0000 http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/shocking-story/#comment-2008 You're preaching to the choir. Coaches are the biggest beneficiaries of the NCAA's dysfunctional economic model; they should feel the pain first and most when they violate the rules, or look the other way while fall guys, er, I mean, assistant coaches violate them on their behalf while preserving plausible deniability. You’re preaching to the choir. Coaches are the biggest beneficiaries of the NCAA’s dysfunctional economic model; they should feel the pain first and most when they violate the rules, or look the other way while fall guys, er, I mean, assistant coaches violate them on their behalf while preserving plausible deniability.

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