Comments on: Suppan - Is he an ace? http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/suppan-is-he-an-ace/ People don't think it be like it is, but it do. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 06:47:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.7 by: Cliffy http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/suppan-is-he-an-ace/#comment-329 Tue, 08 May 2007 00:45:00 +0000 http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/suppan-is-he-an-ace/#comment-329 Convenient move to pull out his 2006 *pre*-All Star numbers of 96.2 IP and a 5.83 ERA (in the NL), 6-5. He's an average pitcher over the course of his career (102 ERA+ with a 0.519 win %) - but if you'd prefer to skew the stats to show him as an ace, knock yourself out. Hey, he pitched very well in the 2006 postseason and clearly helped the Cardinals win their WS (while *not* making any boneheaded baserunning errors). He's clearly a serviceable pitcher. But um... yeah, I need something more than a hand-selected "3/4 of a year" for me to determine that a career-average pitcher has now become an "ace". Indeed, given his recent performance relative to his career numbers (um, a much better sample size), my concern would be that this 32-yr-old has a likely regression to the mean - such that his 2007 post-ASB numbers may be closer to pre-ASB 2006 than his current stat line. Perhaps not - but check back with me at the end of 2007... at least a full *actual* season. If his 2007 numbers compare favorably with the guys you listed, then I will concede that he had an ace-like season... but I'm not holding my breath. And if you want to put a Pounder on Jeff Suppan maintaining his current numbers for the remainder of the season, I'd be happy to oblige. Convenient move to pull out his 2006 *pre*-All Star numbers of 96.2 IP and a 5.83 ERA (in the NL), 6-5. He’s an average pitcher over the course of his career (102 ERA+ with a 0.519 win %) - but if you’d prefer to skew the stats to show him as an ace, knock yourself out.

Hey, he pitched very well in the 2006 postseason and clearly helped the Cardinals win their WS (while *not* making any boneheaded baserunning errors). He’s clearly a serviceable pitcher. But um… yeah, I need something more than a hand-selected “3/4 of a year” for me to determine that a career-average pitcher has now become an “ace”.

Indeed, given his recent performance relative to his career numbers (um, a much better sample size), my concern would be that this 32-yr-old has a likely regression to the mean - such that his 2007 post-ASB numbers may be closer to pre-ASB 2006 than his current stat line.

Perhaps not - but check back with me at the end of 2007… at least a full *actual* season. If his 2007 numbers compare favorably with the guys you listed, then I will concede that he had an ace-like season… but I’m not holding my breath. And if you want to put a Pounder on Jeff Suppan maintaining his current numbers for the remainder of the season, I’d be happy to oblige.

]]> by: Gonzo http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/suppan-is-he-an-ace/#comment-322 Mon, 07 May 2007 18:57:51 +0000 http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/suppan-is-he-an-ace/#comment-322 I forget - did you lump him in with the Gil Meches and Ted Lillys of the world as overpriced mediocre $10-$11 million per year players during the offseason? No sarcasm here - honestly can't remember if you were in that camp or not... I forget - did you lump him in with the Gil Meches and Ted Lillys of the world as overpriced mediocre $10-$11 million per year players during the offseason?

No sarcasm here - honestly can’t remember if you were in that camp or not…

]]> by: Tank http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/suppan-is-he-an-ace/#comment-315 Sun, 06 May 2007 22:31:34 +0000 http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/suppan-is-he-an-ace/#comment-315 Seems rather ace-like to me. Seems rather ace-like to me.

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