Comments on: The Fountainhead http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/the-fountainhead/ People don't think it be like it is, but it do. Sun, 20 May 2012 08:56:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.7 by: Cliffy http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/the-fountainhead/#comment-1083 Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:31:22 +0000 http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/the-fountainhead/#comment-1083 Apparently a noted Body Language Analyst agrees with you: "http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3244344" Apparently a noted Body Language Analyst agrees with you:

“http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3244344″

]]> by: Tank http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/the-fountainhead/#comment-1081 Fri, 15 Feb 2008 02:09:20 +0000 http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/the-fountainhead/#comment-1081 I thought Clemens looked like someone trying to hide something. He stammered quite a bit like he was trying to get his story straight in his mind. I thought Clemens looked like someone trying to hide something. He stammered quite a bit like he was trying to get his story straight in his mind.

]]> by: Gonzo http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/the-fountainhead/#comment-1080 Fri, 15 Feb 2008 01:36:54 +0000 http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/the-fountainhead/#comment-1080 I have - he doesn't look at the person speaking to him when he's lying, and he also licks his lips about 1,000 times... I have - he doesn’t look at the person speaking to him when he’s lying, and he also licks his lips about 1,000 times…

]]> by: Cliffy http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/the-fountainhead/#comment-1076 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:52:03 +0000 http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/the-fountainhead/#comment-1076 In-deed... with his baseball career over, he should move into professional poker. Imagine him on WSOP? I mean, the ratings would be huge... but also, who the hell would know when he's bluffing? Has anyone detected any tells yet? In-deed… with his baseball career over, he should move into professional poker. Imagine him on WSOP? I mean, the ratings would be huge… but also, who the hell would know when he’s bluffing? Has anyone detected any tells yet?

]]> by: shtiny http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/the-fountainhead/#comment-1074 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:57:49 +0000 http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/the-fountainhead/#comment-1074 I actually watched the replay of the whole thing last night, and this is such a clear cut case IMHO. What exactly did McNamee lie about under oath? The only things that the scumbag Burton pointed out [http://www.salon.com/news/1998/12/cov_22newsa.html ] was the meeting at Canseco's house, and a previous lie that McNamee admitted to in 2001. Clemens admitted towards the end of the hearing that he may have driven by the BBQ at Canseco's house, and he did admit that his wife/kids/nanny spent the night there. The previous lies that McNamee told were to protect his clients. I will say that Clemens is a phenomanol liar. I couldn't do what he is doing with a straight face. I am very impressed. I actually watched the replay of the whole thing last night, and this is such a clear cut case IMHO. What exactly did McNamee lie about under oath? The only things that the scumbag Burton pointed out [http://www.salon.com/news/1998/12/cov_22newsa.html ]
was the meeting at Canseco’s house, and a previous lie that McNamee admitted to in 2001. Clemens admitted towards the end of the hearing that he may have driven by the BBQ at Canseco’s house, and he did admit that his wife/kids/nanny spent the night there. The previous lies that McNamee told were to protect his clients.

I will say that Clemens is a phenomanol liar. I couldn’t do what he is doing with a straight face. I am very impressed.

]]> by: Gonzo http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/the-fountainhead/#comment-1073 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:21:54 +0000 http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/the-fountainhead/#comment-1073 My favorite part was when Burton took Macnamee to task for lying, ("The one thing I don't believe is you"), yet Clemens got caught in several lies himself, but said nothing. Actually, I had another favorite part - when Virginia Fox held up the poster with 4 pictures of Clemens and saying, "See? His body hasn't changed all that much" My favorite part was when Burton took Macnamee to task for lying, (”The one thing I don’t believe is you”), yet Clemens got caught in several lies himself, but said nothing.

Actually, I had another favorite part - when Virginia Fox held up the poster with 4 pictures of Clemens and saying, “See? His body hasn’t changed all that much”

]]> by: Cliffy http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/the-fountainhead/#comment-1070 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:52:06 +0000 http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/the-fountainhead/#comment-1070 But apparently they do have a sense of history. I didn't watch myself, but I understand they made veiled references to congressional hearings of the past - baseball-related and non-baseball-related. One congressman referenced Sosa (though not by name, I believe) when he said something about coming before the committee and answering no questions cuz you couldn't speak the language. Apparently another made reference the Ollie North proceedings with a "potted plant in the middle" reference, when speaking to that dude that sat between Clemens and McNamee - apparently a guy who worked on the Mitchell Report, but clearly who's main purpose on this day was to keep Clemens from ringing Mac's neck like Homer would do Bart... "why you little!". The "potted plant" was indeed a buffer, cuz as we all know, "yeah, Senator... we had a lotta buffers." Those witticisms (or at least attempts therein) aside, it's a joke. My conclusion, based on everything I've read discussing it is (a) they're both lying to some degree, and (b) congresspeople are most concerned with lining up along party lines, even when there's no discernible reason for them to do so other than to suggest "the other side" doesn't know what they're doing. Maybe that's the reason? They flipped a coin before the proceedings, perhaps even bet Pounders on who would end up looking worse, and then chose sides randomly just so they could be on opposite sides of this farcical debate. But apparently they do have a sense of history. I didn’t watch myself, but I understand they made veiled references to congressional hearings of the past - baseball-related and non-baseball-related.

One congressman referenced Sosa (though not by name, I believe) when he said something about coming before the committee and answering no questions cuz you couldn’t speak the language.

Apparently another made reference the Ollie North proceedings with a “potted plant in the middle” reference, when speaking to that dude that sat between Clemens and McNamee - apparently a guy who worked on the Mitchell Report, but clearly who’s main purpose on this day was to keep Clemens from ringing Mac’s neck like Homer would do Bart… “why you little!”. The “potted plant” was indeed a buffer, cuz as we all know, “yeah, Senator… we had a lotta buffers.”

Those witticisms (or at least attempts therein) aside, it’s a joke. My conclusion, based on everything I’ve read discussing it is (a) they’re both lying to some degree, and (b) congresspeople are most concerned with lining up along party lines, even when there’s no discernible reason for them to do so other than to suggest “the other side” doesn’t know what they’re doing. Maybe that’s the reason? They flipped a coin before the proceedings, perhaps even bet Pounders on who would end up looking worse, and then chose sides randomly just so they could be on opposite sides of this farcical debate.

]]> by: Gonzo http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/the-fountainhead/#comment-1066 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 02:46:02 +0000 http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/the-fountainhead/#comment-1066 What transpired today was without question a true mockery of a sham. Not even arguably. And these people run the country - may G-d help us, and our children.... What transpired today was without question a true mockery of a sham. Not even arguably.

And these people run the country - may G-d help us, and our children….

]]> by: Tank http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/the-fountainhead/#comment-1064 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 02:43:23 +0000 http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/the-fountainhead/#comment-1064 Makes more sense than anything I can think of Makes more sense than anything I can think of

]]> by: Gonzo http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/the-fountainhead/#comment-1063 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 02:36:49 +0000 http://www.oscargamblesociety.com/the-fountainhead/#comment-1063 I wondered about this myself. This is a stretch, but the only thing I can think of is that Demos liken Mcnamee to a "blue collar" kind of guy, doing what he can to make a buck as a trainer, then doing the "right" thing in blowing the whistle on Clemens and getting crap for it, while Clemens is the big, bad, rich, pampered, egotistical "I can do no wrong" athlete? Otherwise, I dunno... I wondered about this myself.

This is a stretch, but the only thing I can think of is that Demos liken Mcnamee to a “blue collar” kind of guy, doing what he can to make a buck as a trainer, then doing the “right” thing in blowing the whistle on Clemens and getting crap for it, while Clemens is the big, bad, rich, pampered, egotistical “I can do no wrong” athlete?

Otherwise, I dunno…

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